Comments on: Other Voices #1 — This is not like That http://agilethinking.net/blog/2009/03/24/other-voices-1-%e2%80%94-this-is-not-like-that/ Tobias Mayer's Blog Sat, 06 Feb 2010 21:50:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Steve March http://agilethinking.net/blog/2009/03/24/other-voices-1-%e2%80%94-this-is-not-like-that/comment-page-1/#comment-138949 Steve March Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:55:06 +0000 http://agilethinking.net/blog/2009/03/24/other-voices-1-%e2%80%94-this-is-not-like-that/#comment-138949 Well said. Associative thinking (mapping something new to something you already know) is one of the biggest barriers to learning something new. It isn't surprising when you stop and think about it. But I find that this is really common when I train groups, particularly in the corporate world. Well said. Associative thinking (mapping something new to something you already know) is one of the biggest barriers to learning something new. It isn’t surprising when you stop and think about it. But I find that this is really common when I train groups, particularly in the corporate world.

]]> By: Lyssa Adkins http://agilethinking.net/blog/2009/03/24/other-voices-1-%e2%80%94-this-is-not-like-that/comment-page-1/#comment-138946 Lyssa Adkins Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:14:37 +0000 http://agilethinking.net/blog/2009/03/24/other-voices-1-%e2%80%94-this-is-not-like-that/#comment-138946 Alex: Yes, it is a challenge for ourselves and when working with others. And even more of a challenge at the start, as you say. The trick is to keep moving, Alex. Walk through the foyer and into the first room that attracts your eye. The Scrum "house" is an architectural wonder to behold with treasures in every nook and cranny. Keep learning and you'll do just fine. You'll also find ways to get past the "that's the way it is" blues. Lyssa Alex:

Yes, it is a challenge for ourselves and when working with others. And even more of a challenge at the start, as you say. The trick is to keep moving, Alex. Walk through the foyer and into the first room that attracts your eye. The Scrum “house” is an architectural wonder to behold with treasures in every nook and cranny.

Keep learning and you’ll do just fine. You’ll also find ways to get past the “that’s the way it is” blues.

Lyssa

]]> By: Alex http://agilethinking.net/blog/2009/03/24/other-voices-1-%e2%80%94-this-is-not-like-that/comment-page-1/#comment-138945 Alex Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:24:55 +0000 http://agilethinking.net/blog/2009/03/24/other-voices-1-%e2%80%94-this-is-not-like-that/#comment-138945 Excellent and valid points. I think it's somewhat human nature, though, to try to fit new ideas within the context of things you already know. Not doing so is very difficult, and may even be beyond a majority of people out there. And even if you can personally make this leap, most of us have deal with the reality of our work environments -- when selling Scrum to my company executive, for example, I had to provide some context around what it means and how it will be different, so I have map new ideas to old in order to even consider moving towards Scrum. Shaking off one's preconceptions, one's roots in old ideas and ways of thinking, is an incredibly challenging task. I think that is part of the journey an open-minded person can take with Scrum and agile. It's difficult to do at the start, though. Excellent and valid points. I think it’s somewhat human nature, though, to try to fit new ideas within the context of things you already know. Not doing so is very difficult, and may even be beyond a majority of people out there. And even if you can personally make this leap, most of us have deal with the reality of our work environments — when selling Scrum to my company executive, for example, I had to provide some context around what it means and how it will be different, so I have map new ideas to old in order to even consider moving towards Scrum.

Shaking off one’s preconceptions, one’s roots in old ideas and ways of thinking, is an incredibly challenging task. I think that is part of the journey an open-minded person can take with Scrum and agile. It’s difficult to do at the start, though.

]]> By: Kris http://agilethinking.net/blog/2009/03/24/other-voices-1-%e2%80%94-this-is-not-like-that/comment-page-1/#comment-138944 Kris Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:47:23 +0000 http://agilethinking.net/blog/2009/03/24/other-voices-1-%e2%80%94-this-is-not-like-that/#comment-138944 Beautifully expressed Lyssa. I couldn't agree more...as a former PM turned Agile coach, I feel that "danger" often. It's a change...and that's always a bit scary, but it sure is rewarding to dance across the danger line! Beautifully expressed Lyssa. I couldn’t agree more…as a former PM turned Agile coach, I feel that “danger” often. It’s a change…and that’s always a bit scary, but it sure is rewarding to dance across the danger line!

]]> By: Derek Mahlitz http://agilethinking.net/blog/2009/03/24/other-voices-1-%e2%80%94-this-is-not-like-that/comment-page-1/#comment-138943 Derek Mahlitz Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:39:10 +0000 http://agilethinking.net/blog/2009/03/24/other-voices-1-%e2%80%94-this-is-not-like-that/#comment-138943 Well said Lyssa. As I help many former PMI based project managers I see the same behaviors. Well said Lyssa. As I help many former PMI based project managers I see the same behaviors.

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