Comments on: Oppression, Revolution and the Future of Scrum — #1 http://agilethinking.net/blog/2009/03/11/oppression-revolution-and-the-future-of-scrum-1/ Tobias Mayer's Blog Sat, 06 Feb 2010 21:50:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Chile Ágil http://agilethinking.net/blog/2009/03/11/oppression-revolution-and-the-future-of-scrum-1/comment-page-1/#comment-154439 Chile Ágil Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:49:06 +0000 http://agilethinking.net/blog/2009/03/11/oppression-revolution-and-the-future-of-scrum-1/#comment-154439 [...] <strong>El estado del arte del movimiento ágil (¿Scrum versus el resto?)</strong> partir por formar “Maestros” en dos días… mal, mal - Y los flirteos de la Scrum Alliance con el PMI, que en si es el verdadero Microsoft de las metodologias informáticas, mucho mas exitoso [...] [...] El estado del arte del movimiento ágil (¿Scrum versus el resto?) partir por formar “Maestros” en dos días… mal, mal – Y los flirteos de la Scrum Alliance con el PMI, que en si es el verdadero Microsoft de las metodologias informáticas, mucho mas exitoso [...]

]]> By: Huet Landry http://agilethinking.net/blog/2009/03/11/oppression-revolution-and-the-future-of-scrum-1/comment-page-1/#comment-141120 Huet Landry Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:37:55 +0000 http://agilethinking.net/blog/2009/03/11/oppression-revolution-and-the-future-of-scrum-1/#comment-141120 Tobias, In three years of examining the PMI you never heard of the concept of "rolling wave planning" ? I use this concept often to sell PMBOK-focused traditional PMs on the advantages of an agile viewpoint - and Scrum as a reasonable and not-so-scary tool. Tobias,

In three years of examining the PMI you never heard of the concept of “rolling wave planning” ?

I use this concept often to sell PMBOK-focused traditional PMs on the advantages of an agile viewpoint – and Scrum as a reasonable and not-so-scary tool.

]]> By: PB http://agilethinking.net/blog/2009/03/11/oppression-revolution-and-the-future-of-scrum-1/comment-page-1/#comment-139646 PB Thu, 28 May 2009 15:27:57 +0000 http://agilethinking.net/blog/2009/03/11/oppression-revolution-and-the-future-of-scrum-1/#comment-139646 And +1 re the PMI. And +1 re the PMI.

]]> By: Marie http://agilethinking.net/blog/2009/03/11/oppression-revolution-and-the-future-of-scrum-1/comment-page-1/#comment-138951 Marie Thu, 02 Apr 2009 14:12:15 +0000 http://agilethinking.net/blog/2009/03/11/oppression-revolution-and-the-future-of-scrum-1/#comment-138951 Here here! As an agile practitioner, there is no way I want to pay to attend a conference whose Keynote is being delivered by someone who isn't even part of the agile paradigm. Agilists do this sort of thing all the time -- they want to be rebels and exaggeratedly open to everyone's ideas. And what could be more rebellious and ironic than giving the PMI the most important speech of the conference? Here here! As an agile practitioner, there is no way I want to pay to attend a conference whose Keynote is being delivered by someone who isn’t even part of the agile paradigm.

Agilists do this sort of thing all the time — they want to be rebels and exaggeratedly open to everyone’s ideas. And what could be more rebellious and ironic than giving the PMI the most important speech of the conference?

]]> By: Toni Kaikkonen http://agilethinking.net/blog/2009/03/11/oppression-revolution-and-the-future-of-scrum-1/comment-page-1/#comment-138950 Toni Kaikkonen Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:31:41 +0000 http://agilethinking.net/blog/2009/03/11/oppression-revolution-and-the-future-of-scrum-1/#comment-138950 It is interesting to see the signs of scrum being institutionalized. We'll soon be talking about agile standards. Actually, the "animal farm" organization usually happens in all anarchistic revolutionary communities that try to live outside the society. That's what we're like. Pigs and chickens ;) It is interesting to see the signs of scrum being institutionalized. We’ll soon be talking about agile standards.

Actually, the “animal farm” organization usually happens in all anarchistic revolutionary communities that try to live outside the society. That’s what we’re like. Pigs and chickens ;)

]]> By: Michael Spayd http://agilethinking.net/blog/2009/03/11/oppression-revolution-and-the-future-of-scrum-1/comment-page-1/#comment-138918 Michael Spayd Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:35:23 +0000 http://agilethinking.net/blog/2009/03/11/oppression-revolution-and-the-future-of-scrum-1/#comment-138918 Ah, my friend Tobias! Where would we be--collectively--without your voice! I often would not take the strong positions you do, but I (almost) always appreciate you 'calling the question.' You are indeed a spiritual warrior! Michael Ah, my friend Tobias! Where would we be–collectively–without your voice! I often would not take the strong positions you do, but I (almost) always appreciate you ‘calling the question.’

You are indeed a spiritual warrior!

Michael

]]> By: Mike Sutton http://agilethinking.net/blog/2009/03/11/oppression-revolution-and-the-future-of-scrum-1/comment-page-1/#comment-138909 Mike Sutton Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:40:44 +0000 http://agilethinking.net/blog/2009/03/11/oppression-revolution-and-the-future-of-scrum-1/#comment-138909 on the previous posting: you are **NOT** enslaved/oppressed until someone tells you otherwise. Freedom is your default state. You ARE free until you are oppressed. Mike on the previous posting:

you are **NOT** enslaved/oppressed until someone tells you otherwise. Freedom is your default state. You ARE free until you are oppressed.

Mike

]]> By: Mike Sutton http://agilethinking.net/blog/2009/03/11/oppression-revolution-and-the-future-of-scrum-1/comment-page-1/#comment-138908 Mike Sutton Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:38:18 +0000 http://agilethinking.net/blog/2009/03/11/oppression-revolution-and-the-future-of-scrum-1/#comment-138908 Tobias, On oppression - We all have choice. If you are oppressed in your current role, life - choose another one. Simple. If another doesn't exist, create it. Freedom is not to be claimed, it is to be taken, you are enslaved/oppressed until someone tells you otherwise. Freedom is your default state. On the PMI - I broadly agree with your views on this 'collaboration', but hold out hope that there is indeed something the Scrum can learn from the PMI (even if it is as banal as how to be even more widely adopted). Very few things are an absolute waste of time, from which absolutely noting can be learned. Think about this though - it may hold some reason for the tie-up: 'Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him.' - Sun Tzu - the Art of War. that is all. Mike Tobias,

On oppression – We all have choice.

If you are oppressed in your current role, life – choose another one. Simple. If another doesn’t exist, create it.

Freedom is not to be claimed, it is to be taken, you are enslaved/oppressed until someone tells you otherwise. Freedom is your default state.

On the PMI -
I broadly agree with your views on this ‘collaboration’, but hold out hope that there is indeed something the Scrum can learn from the PMI (even if it is as banal as how to be even more widely adopted).

Very few things are an absolute waste of time, from which absolutely noting can be learned.

Think about this though – it may hold some reason for the tie-up:
‘Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him.’ – Sun Tzu – the Art of War.

that is all.
Mike

]]> By: Joe Little http://agilethinking.net/blog/2009/03/11/oppression-revolution-and-the-future-of-scrum-1/comment-page-1/#comment-138864 Joe Little Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:04:58 +0000 http://agilethinking.net/blog/2009/03/11/oppression-revolution-and-the-future-of-scrum-1/#comment-138864 And let's remember that we once were stupid too. And will be again, no doubt. While we might be a few steps more evolved than PMI (certainly I think we are), the road is thousands of miles long and we all have just begun. Hard as it feels, I would try to love my enemies. (Maybe you are too, but I don't feel it much.) Of course, part of love is giving 'em hell for being stupid. And let’s remember that we once were stupid too. And will be again, no doubt. While we might be a few steps more evolved than PMI (certainly I think we are), the road is thousands of miles long and we all have just begun.

Hard as it feels, I would try to love my enemies. (Maybe you are too, but I don’t feel it much.) Of course, part of love is giving ‘em hell for being stupid.

]]> By: Joe Little http://agilethinking.net/blog/2009/03/11/oppression-revolution-and-the-future-of-scrum-1/comment-page-1/#comment-138856 Joe Little Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:54:26 +0000 http://agilethinking.net/blog/2009/03/11/oppression-revolution-and-the-future-of-scrum-1/#comment-138856 And +1 re the PMI. And +1 re the PMI.

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